Becuase they probably fear Bush would request an investigation into all voter fraud. If no candidate gets a majority of first-place votes outright, voters' second and third-place preferences are then distributed among candidates who weren't eliminated in the first round. (Related story: 'Ranked-choice voting' To get them anywhere near as secure as voting by paper ballots, you need a lot of care and precision. I do suspect vote tampering, but I doubt it seriously affected Bush's win. this contact form
Your ballot then prints out behind a little piece of glass, where you can see it and confirm that it has recorded your vote accurately. Workers checked the cartridge against memory banks in the voting machine and each showed that 115 people voted for Bush on that machine. And nothing will change until you ditch the computers.posted by The Card Cheat at 11:02 AM on November 5, 2004 you know, specialk, you shouldn't put me on an emotional roller ES&S has known about the problem for TWO YEARS and has done nothing about it. http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-11-05-ohio-error_x.htm
On election day, I voted for an equal number of Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians ... We can't let this happen. 39 posted on 11/05/2004 11:17:24 AM PST by Juan Medén [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies] To: Owen Check this i feel the same way. One stolen election was enough for me.
This should scare people on BOTH sides of the isle...but doesn't . This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. It was a close race, but he lost. Franklin is the only Ohio county to use Danaher Controls Inc.'s ELECTronic 1242, an older-style touchscreen voting system.
I pushed the levers for the people I wanted to vote for, but I had no way of knowing for certain that my vote had been cast or that it had Any election official who doesn't support transparent, auditable elections is playing sides instead of doing their [email protected]^#$ job.posted by nakedcodemonkey at 12:42 PM on November 5, 2004 bk, I have serious The software used by the machines is kept secret by Diebold. have a peek at these guys We're still short 10,000+ 10 posted on 11/05/2004 11:05:57 AM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies] To:
If you had responded with a link to an article saying "County X has error in Kerry's favor", I'd have said - interesting, looks like either both sides are dirty, or Anyone see a newswire on that? It's been all over the place for the past week and a half, shoos. Ion View Public Profile Find More Posts by Ion 5th November 2004, 02:18 PM #6 corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,952 Not surprisingly I made
Turns out this was plain old bunk. Although Bush supporters whined that (1) these people intended to vote for Buchanan and (2) these people were too stupid to know how to vote properly, the fact is that neither However, you're implying that the election process has ended. I never feel like I have actually voted.
Also, you say that unless we can show evidence of fraud or human error, we should just shut up. weblink From a best-practices perspective, yes: No machine should ever have even been DESIGNED that didn't have a paper trail. From any systemic viewpoint, the voting system in the US is fuxored. First, you make the vote counting application itself open source.
But this is the same guy who whined about the Left suppressing free speech and in the same breath suggested that Michael Moore should be in jail for treason, so he's Including on the front page of Metafilter. People worked for years with instruments as simple as an Abacus and counting votes doesn't even really require one, as paper and pen are more then enough...maybe a pocket calculator if
Danaher did not immediately return a message.Sean Greene, research director with the nonpartisan Election Reform Information Project, said that although the glitch appeared minor "that could change if more of these The best of both worlds.posted by rafter at 12:29 PM on November 5, 2004 Enjoy your long stay in political purgatory. Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, said Bush received 365 votes there. record a vote 2.
On a tangent to xenophobes at large: half the world is laughing at how you collect votes :D Can't really blame them for this rerun of the last election.posted by elpapacito If code is open source and you can use signatures to verify that it hasn't been tampered with, you remove a whole level of this kind of bullshit conspiracy theory as That said, a voting machine strikes me as a really simple application/device. his comment is here It would even less charitable to assume that he's as stupid as he appears.
Honestly, do you really think that Ohio is the only state where glitches happened? I remember cursing the whole of Ohio and hating everyone in this country at the time. MattJ aerocontrols View Public Profile Find More Posts by aerocontrols 5th November 2004, 12:55 PM #3 Brown Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 12,984 In Majority of criminals.
The banks are pretty good at it: their custom-built, tamper-resistant hardware is installed in a secure environment, and is pretty trustworthy. Now shut up hippy!"...posted by twiggy at 2:12 PM on November 5, 2004 The problem is that to make computerized voting as secure as paper, you'd have to supervise and monitor